"There's no time to kill them properly," said one. "No time for play on this trip."

"That can't be helped," said another. "But why not kill them quick, kill them now? They're a cursed nuisance, and we're in a hurry. Evening's coming on, and we ought to get a move on."

"Orders." said a third voice in a deep growl."Kill all but NOTthe Halfings; they are to be brought backALIVEas quickly as possible. That's my orders."

"What are they wanted for?" asked several voices. "Why alive? Do they give good sport?"

"No! I heard that one of them has got something, something that's wanted for the War, some elvish plot or other. Anyway they'll both be questioned."

"Is that all you know? Why don't we search them and find out? We might find something that we could use ourselves."

"That is a very interesting remark," sneered a voice, softer than the others but more evil. "I may have to report that. The prisoners are NOT to be searched or plundered: those aremy orders."

"And mine too," said the deep voice. 'Alive and as captured; no spoiling. That's my orders."

"Not our orders!" said one of the earlier voices. "We have come all the way from the Mines to kill, and avenge our folk. I wish to kill, and then go back north."

"Then you can wish again," said the growling voice. "I am Ugluk. I command. I return to Isengard by the shortest road."

"Is Saruman the master or the Great Eye?" said the evil voice. "We should go back at once to Lugburz."

"If we could cross the Great River, we might," said another voice. "But there are not enough of us to venture down to the bridges."

"I came across," said the evil voice. "A winged Nazgul awaits us northward on the east-bank."

"Maybe, maybe! Then you'll fly off with our prisoners, and get all the pay and praise in Lugburz, and leave us to foot it as best we can through the Horse-country. No, we must stick together. These lands are dangerous: full of foul rebels and brigands."

"Aye, we must stick together," growled Ugluk. "I don't trust you little swine. You've no guts outside your own sties. But for us you'd all have run away. We are the fighting Uruk-hai! We slew the great warrior. We took the prisoners. We are the servants of Saruman the Wise, the White Hand: the Hand that gives us man's-flesh to eat. We came out of Isengard, and led you here, and we shall lead you back by the way we choose. I am Ugluk. I have spoken."

"You have spoken more than enough, Ugluk," sneered the evil voice. "I wonder how they would like it in Lugburz. They might think that Ugluk's shoulders needed relieving of a swollen head. They might ask where his strange ideas came from. Did they come from Saruman, perhaps? Who doeshe think he is, setting up on his own with his filthy white badges? They might agree with me, with Grishnakh their trusted messenger; and I Grishnakh say this: Saruman is a fool. and a dirty treacherous fool. But the Great Eye is on him.

'Swineis it? How do you folk like being calledswine by the muck-rakers of a dirty little wizard? It's orc-flesh they eat, I'll warrant."

Many loud yells in orc-speech answered him, and the ringing clash of weapons being drawn. Cautiously Pippin rolled over, hoping to see what would happen. His guards had gone to join in the fray. In the twilight he saw a large black Orc, probably Ugluk, standing facing Grishnakh, a short crook-legged creature, very broad and with long arms that hung almost to the ground. Round them were many smaller goblins. Pippin supposed that these were the ones from the North. They had drawn their knives and swords, but hesitated to attack Ugluk.

Ugluk shouted, and a number of other Orcs of nearly his own size ran up. Then suddenly, without warning, Ugluk sprang forwards, and with two swift strokes swept the heads off two of his opponents. Grishnakh stepped aside and vanished into the shadows. The others gave way, and one stepped backwards and fell over Merry's prostrate form with a curse. Yet that probably saved his life, for Ugluk's followers leaped over him and cut down another with their broad-bladed swords. It was the yellow-fanged guard. His body fell right on top of Pippin, still clutching its long saw-edged knife.

"Put up your weapons!" shouted Ugluk. "And let's have no more nonsense! We go straight west from here, and down the stair. From there straight to the downs, then along the river to the forest. And we march day and night. That clear?"

"Now," thought Pippin, 'if only it takes that ugly fellow a little while to get his troop under control, I've got a chance." A gleam of hope had come to him. The edge of the black knife had snicked his arm, and then slid down to his wrist. He felt the blood trickling on to his hand, but he also felt the cold touch of steel against his skin.

The Orcs were getting ready to march again, but some of the Northerners were still unwilling, and the Isengarders slew two more before the rest were cowed. There was much cursing and confusion. For the moment Pippin was unwatched. His legs were securely bound, but his arms were only tied about the wrists, and his hands were in front of him. He could move them both together, though the bonds were cruelly tight. He pushed the dead Orc to one side, then hardly daring to breathe, he drew the knot of the wrist-cord up and down against the blade of the knife. It was sharp and the dead hand held it fast. The cord was cut! Quickly Pippin took it in his fingers and knotted it again into a loose bracelet of two loops and slipped it over his hands. Then he lay very still.

"Pick up those prisoners!" shouted Ugluk. "Don't play any tricks with them! If they are not alive when we get back, someone else will die too."

An Orc seized Pippin like a sack. put its head between his tied hands, grabbed his arms and dragged them down, until Pippin's face was crushed against its neck; then it jolted off with him. Another treated Merry in the same way. The Orc's clawlike hand gripped Pippin's arms like iron; the nails bit into him. He shut his eyes and slipped back into evil dreams.

Suddenly he was thrown on to the stony floor again. It was early night, but the slim moon was already falling westward. They were on the edge of a cliff that seemed to look out over a sea of pale mist. There was a sound of water falling nearby.

"The scouts have come back at last," said an Orc close at hand.

"Well, what did you discover?" growled the voice of Ugluk.

"Only a single horseman, and he made off westwards. All's clear now."

"Now, I daresay. But how long? You fools! You should have shot him. He'll raise the alarm. The cursed horsebreeders will hear of us by morning. Now we'll have to leg it double quick."

A shadow bent over Pippin. It was Ugluk. "Sit up!" said the Orc. "My lads are tired of lugging you about. We have got to climb down and you must use your legs. Be helpful now. No crying out, no trying to escape. We have ways of paying for tricks that you won't like, though they won't spoil your usefulness for the Master."